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Published: 16.12.2004, 06:00
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Media-training: researchers practise TV interviews
Science in twenty seconds

For two years Corporate Communications (1) at ETH Zurich has offered a media-training course on request for professors and researchers, who have to talk on radio or TV about their area of expertise or give their appraisal of social questions. In the courses, they hone their communication skills in front of a running camera.

By Michael Breu

Training begins with a spontaneous interview. Participants are put on the spot and showered with questions. The film is then watched and evaluated in ETH's Multimedia Room. "Television is a visual communication modus," says Klingler. "This sounds pretty obvious but what it means is that how something is said is often more important than what is said." The "how" also includes, for example, which sections of a picture are chosen, against which background the interviewee stands or sits, whether noises detract from the focus, etc.

One important element is the preliminary discussion. "This is a chance that the scientist shouldn't brush aside. This is where one can find out what the aims of the journalist are. It is also an opportunity to clear up any misunderstandings. And not least, it can establish an atmosphere of trust if the two parties are meeting for the first time," says Klingler. The offer is welcomed by the participants of the third media-training course. "Practising in front of a running camera has been very useful. I now know how television operates," said one professor who was taking part. For the professional media man Roman Klingler, there are two main things that the short media- training course can provide. "On the one hand, it gives people the chance to rehearse interview situations in a protected environment, and, on the other, provides them with information on the specific needs and circumstantial constraints that TV journalists face."

Media-training courses are carried out on request; costs are charged to the respective department or institute.


Uncomplicated, short and personal statements

MTW is the science programme of the Swiss TV channel SF DRS. Scientists regularly appear on MTW to explain their research. How would you like the scientists to be?

Helen Issler: We would like scientists who are aware that a good TV report lives from the picture, sounds and movements. This means that we need researchers who take the time to leave the office and help us to produce good pictures and scenes, material that we can use to present the subject in a lively way that engages the interest of the viewer.

What must scientists pay attention to if they give a TV interview?

Issler: Scientists have the tendency to be too precise, too detailed, they are often overly cautious and think more about their peers than the lay public in the audience. We need uncomplicated, short, clear and personal statements, free of scientific jargon. The message has to be immediately understood, and understandable to people who know little or nothing about the subject. We don't want to communicate the facts in the interview, this is what the pictures, text and graphics are for. But we should provide the audience with estimations, opinions and research goals. It's the editor's job to clearly communicate, where and in which context the scientist's statements will appear. Interview takes in a filmed report are always relatively short, mostly less than a minute.

What do you think about the media savviness of most interviewed scientists?

Issler: It's varies widely, but awareness and understanding of our needs are growing. At MTW we are usually met with a high level of trust and people we want to interview listen to our advice. They are often amazed afterwards at how quickly the most important points of an issue can be communicated. Researchers who can communicate well and clearly are naturally approached more often for interviews.

Helen Issler is head of the science programme MTW on the Swiss TV channel SF DRS (3).




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Filming for the channel 3Sat's science magazine "nano“: the space biology group of scientists has to get its explanations right. Picture: Reto Vetterli/3Sat large

"Publishing houses and TV channels have discovered a pot of gold: issues surrounding science and technology" reported Germany's Der Spiegel recently. At last year's European Science Writer Award, Gero von Randow, science editor of Hamburg's weekly newspaper Die Zeit, said, "Science delivers headlines. It provides front-page stories, lead articles, TV news headlines, special programmes on ZDF, and movie films and bestsellers besides.

Science is sexy! Publication figures reflect this phenomenon. In 2003, the "Science" section of the Swiss Sonntags-Zeitung, for example, was read by 86 per cent of readers, way ahead of the newspaper's "Sports" and "News" sections. Or "Menschen Technik Wissenschaft“ (People Technology Science) a popular science programme on Swiss TV, SF DRS: 27 per cent or 440,000 viewers rate the programme as one of the best on Swiss television.

However, science is exacting. Science journalists aren't the only ones who are aware of this. "Science has to leave its ivory tower," as Martin E. Schwab, Professor at the Institute for Brain Research of the University of Zurich and ETH Zurich tells Roche Magazine, and Peter Gehr from the Institute of Anatomy of the University of Bern says, "Science has to explain itself to the population at large, it has to discuss its work and results with them."

This requires specific tools. Because to communicate in twenty seconds, in front of a running camera, something of what one has been working on for many years is anything but simple. Giving an evaluation of societal questions on the radio–calling to mind numerous interviews given by ETH researchers surrounding the war in Iraq–scientific experts need to be media savvy. The necessary know-how can only be obtained by training–reading a book on the subject is simply not enough. This is why Corporate Communications at ETH Zurich enlarged its offer of services by a of media-training two years ago. At present, Roman Klingler, part-time employee at ETH since autumn 2000, and former TV journalist with SF DRS (news programmes, such as Schweiz aktuell, Tagesschau, 10vor10) is responsible for the course which he teaches in close co-operation with NET (Network for Educational Technology) at ETH. "Talking or even delivering a short statement in front of a running camera is the devil's own work for lots of scientists," as Klingler came to realise during his journalistic career. Many scientists don't believe that complex matters can be summarised in a few words. Knowing how the media functions can be of great help.


Setting up the goalposts

Professor Wenger, a year ago you took part in a media-training course at ETH. Was it worthwhile?

Andreas Wenger: The discussion in a small group on the effect of visual and audio sequences was very helpful. I can only recommend the course where one gets the chance to work together with experienced media experts. What I found especially interesting was to be reminded that there are a few simple rules that one can practise for interview situations–think first, then answer; slowly and using everyday words; provide information in reasonable doses; express clear and concise core messages. At the same time, credibility also depends, to a certain degree, on remaining natural, and in the end there are as many ways to achieve this as there are individuals.

Have you been able to use what you learnt?

Wenger: The media- training course convinced me that it is important to set the goalposts of the interview before one begins. What is the current agenda of the media? It is a question of facts, analyses, headlines or is "the expert" the subject? What questions can I answer with commitment? Or, too, where is the end of my expertise and the beginning of commonplace statements?

Has your awareness of radio and TV changed in any way?

Wenger: Yes, I think so. TV works with images, radio with words. If it's a question of war and peace, about highly emotive image motives, radio is the more suitable medium to transmit differentiated background information. But radio comes in lots of shapes and sizes: all too often, journalists and moderators aren't able to enter into questions that go beyond the latest headlines owing to time pressure, tight finances or lack of personnel. In the end, the more differentiated mutual expectations are, the more satisfying co-operation will be between the media representatives and the expert.

Andreas Wenger is Professor for International and National Security Policy at ETH Zurich (2).




Footnotes:
(1) Corporate Communications at ETH Zurich: www.cc.ethz.ch/
(2) Working group Andreas Wenger: www.css.ethz.ch/
(3) Menschen Technik Wissenschaft, SF DRS: http://www.mtw.sfdrs.ch



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